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Unmasking the Genius Behind Snowman Multimedia

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Get ready to be engrossed by our animated chat with Brian Snow, the creative genius behind Snowman Multimedia and the host of Snowman in the Morning. As we uncover Brian's journey into sportscasting, his vibrant spirit and strong passion for sports are simply contagious. Learn about the significance of a little green scheduler, a football game, and an understanding wife in the success of his multimedia empire.

Fasten your seatbelts as we navigate through Brian's lifelong love for sports, ignited by watching games with his family and cemented by the iconic "The Catch." Prepare to laugh as Brian shares the hilarious reactions of his family to the anomaly of a Chicago native being a 49ers fan. This episode is not just about sports, it's about personal stories, life lessons, and entrepreneurship. So, whether you're a sports enthusiast or an aspiring entrepreneur, get ready for a dose of inspiration from one of the best in sports media. Buckle up for a ride into the exhilarating world of Brian Snow!

Brian Snow is a Content Creator, Co-Host and Blogger at Snowman in the Morning with Cole Johnson.  Also, Founder, Director, CEO at Snowman Multimedia.

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Speaker 1:

I got a Scotty and a Frozehead Big Boss like I'm Rose. I see one of these at the home main Lil' Betty and she home main right my city at the home game up and down and go gold-graze and the sprint is taking up both legs Hopping. We boom and the package be boomin'. Yeah, we got it, we got it. Got it. Sheep ticking and chosen and low at the moment. Yeah, we got it, we got it, got it. They cannot door we doin'. You see how we movin'. We got it. We got it, got it.

Speaker 1:

Mess with the squad? you try to try to go against us. I highly doubt it. All of my bros, we got it, got it. They know the show. We got it, got it. Been on the road. We got it, got it. We cannot go without it. I did Mess with the squad.

Speaker 1:

You try to try to Go against us. I highly doubt it. Been on the road. We got it, got it. We cannot go without it. I did I be unexcited. Can't mess with the toxic, curvy little body. Be all on me Keepin' it spicy. You know that. I got it. If she need it, just call on me. Run up the tab. We runnin' it back. I'm on me. Yeah, you will ball on me, ride with me. We gon' roll, roll, get it. Try, yeah, go. So on, so on. Hoppin' we zoomin'. The package be boomin' yeah, we got it, we got it, got it. Sheep ticking and chosen and low at the moment yeah, we got it, we got it, got it. They cannot door. We doin'. You see how we movin'. We got it, we got it, got it. Mess with the squad.

Speaker 2:

What is poppin' everyone? What's goin' on? Welcome to the Dan Leveau Show. Thank you for watching live and if you're not watching live, thank you for clicking the play button. Anyways, today we have a very special guest. I get to yell at somebody else besides Jerry in today, so this is gonna be awesome We do have. He's a creator of Snowman Multimedia and the host of Snowman in the Morning, one of my favorite sports shows in the morning. He is Brian Snow, so we're gonna go ahead and bring him on. Let's get this going. How you doin', sir? What's?

Speaker 3:

up Danimo. How's it going man?

Speaker 2:

Ah, not much, not much. He's livin' the dream, livin' the dream Every day man, i took off a week off of work. You're right for the Fourth of July, yeah, and I ended up scheduling six shows during my vacation. So my vacation's not really a vacation. I'm still working, but I'm just not working, working. You know what I'm?

Speaker 3:

saying Man, you don't wanna see my schedule book right now, you don't wanna see. let me tell you something. My wife, my beautiful wife Jody, knows that I try to remember more things and I have a horrible time doing so, so she instructed me to get one of these. Yeah, you don't wanna see it right now, because it's like booked for a while. I put my daily shows in the schedule and I put them on the Google Calendar so she'll know when I'm taping or when I'm live or whatever. I'll tell you what man she's been my organizer, to say the least. She's been that for me.

Speaker 2:

Right, right. We have some familiar people popping up in the comments. I recognize those names.

Speaker 3:

Well, you hang out with us in the morning, so you ought to know some of these names.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Every chance I get, every chance I get, I try to get. I try to grab your show. That's one thing about having a week off is I got to watch your show five times.

Speaker 3:

Good, good, because I know most of the time you're working and you catch some of the replay and then you send me your comments afterwards. So to see you live five days, man, it helps to grow the show and grow the audience, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate you coming in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. Well, before we get started everything, go ahead and take a second to introduce yourself to the people who don't know you out there.

Speaker 3:

Well, i am Brian. I'm originally from Chicago. I got started in sports casting in 1995 doing play by play. A year after that I started doing sports talk and play by play. I've been doing it. This will be my 28th year being active in sports media. What came to be snowman multimedia was founded way back in 1996 and we've gone through several name changes, several ideas and I got to give credit to Jody. Jody said settle on a name, take the brand and build it. So just took my nickname, put multimedia behind it and, lo and behold, it's the. And that came into being less than two years ago because I had it under another name. But I couldn't get everything uniform. So finally I just took the pieces that I had and put it together in a puzzle and Jody looked at me and said look, you got something solid, stick with it. So I'm sticking with it, yep.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, yeah, it's like my fiance. When I told her I was going to start a podcast she kind of just looked at me sideways like yeah, okay, okay, you're going to be Joe Rogan Here we go Okay, you're going to be Joe Rogan. Here we go And it's now three years running and she's like you're actually getting good at this And I was like, yeah, three years will do that to you.

Speaker 3:

For those of you that are not familiar, my main show is Snow Man in the Morning, and those of you who know my wife's voice that opens the show, this is this is what she does.

Speaker 2:

Mr We please wake up.

Speaker 3:

And that happened purely on accident, because I heard her say something while we were watching a football game, something about us in football, and her voice, just it was already stuck, but it in that comedic sense it stuck. And I said would you record something for me? And she gave me this wicked, she gave me this wicked smile. I was like all right, what do you have for me? And I wrote that line down And she turned and looked at me and she says how do you want to record it? I say you know how you get hurried. You know you get hurried when you try to wake me up and I and I and I'm not waking up. She said, yeah, i said give me that, for that's what happened. That's what happened.

Speaker 2:

That's what happened. That's great. But yeah, have you always been like a, like a sports fan, or have you, like wanted to go like a different direction with it, or no, it's always been sports.

Speaker 3:

It's been sports for me since, watching sports with my, my parents and especially my dad. My grandfather, who my dad, took me in my first baseball game And what got me into football was a simple play called the catch Montana to Clark against the Cowboys. That made me a 49er fan for life. And my mother, rest her soul for years, would ask me you're from Chicago, how can you like the 49ers? and you're from Chicago, how come you don't like the bears? I said, mom, it's pretty simple. We actually have a quarterback.

Speaker 2:

Bears suck too.

Speaker 3:

Oh, when I, when I told her we actually, we actually had a quarterback, and then I told, and then I reminded her who it was, and she says, all right, all right, all right. And then the year she asked me that the Bears played the 49ers in the NSC championship at Soldier Field, and when Jerry Rice caught the first touchdown pass to the game, i went upstairs and took a nap because I knew the game was over. You see it throughout games. You see it throughout games and you're like, ok, there's this one play that just busted wide open. And you're like, ok, i'm good.

Speaker 2:

That's it. I don't need to watch anymore. It's over.

Speaker 3:

It's, it's done, it's done, it's. It's that one, it's that one. Play that opens up, opens everything up. Now I came downstairs that afternoon and mom just looked at me. Dad's smiling OK, and laughing throughout the house. Mom just looked at me and went how did you know? I said mom, who's a 49ers quarterback, and she starts laughing.

Speaker 2:

Like who's your quarterback? You know who Jerry Rice is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

You're on that game And you and you and.

Speaker 3:

I could have, i could have swore. I heard my mother go. Jerry, i could have swore, i heard my mother go. damn, jerry Rice, i told you.

Speaker 2:

Damn Jerry Rice. Actually have a sign Mississippi Valley State University helmet signed by Jerry Rice, nice Very nice, that was that was one of my great mystery boxes that I got out of the mail.

Speaker 2:

I was just like I'm gonna be whole like the king, the king right here. You can't go wrong with that. No, you can't go wrong with the best wide receiver they ever lived. You can't, you can't, you can't do it. But I do watch your show every single or try to watch so every single morning, but I do watch it every single day And you have a great segment on there And I enjoy it so much that I need to talk about it. Ok, the LeBron Sexuels segment. Ok, for everyone who does that know what, the LeBron Sex segment is LeBron Sexuels segment on Snowman in the Morning is pretty much them bashing LeBron James for a good minute and a half.

Speaker 3:

You want to know something? Cole started that on his show, cole Sports on the Daily OK, and one day I said can I borrow that and bring it to my show? He said yeah, go ahead, use it. Well, he would actually have before he brought it to, before he fully brought it to my show, he called me as a guest And I said there's one thing you have to do for me. He says what's that? I said you have to voice the Bronze Sexual Confessions intro And he did that one live on the air And we took off And about an hour later he finally concluded it And I'm on the with some of the things that he and I both say and do. We just slated the second hour on Wednesdays as the Bronze Sexual Hour because some of the stuff that we see and hear, good grief, we can't put it in the regular show. We just can't.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true. You can't put it in. No, no, no. You can't put it, you can't put it in the regular show, right Yeah. When I first, i was just like, oh my God, this is hilarious. And the the, the, the Trace, the Trace segment too, that's it. That's like classic.

Speaker 1:

Call comes up with some.

Speaker 2:

It was like three minutes. Yeah, it was like three minutes of like wild, wild stuff.

Speaker 3:

And he and I talked one day off the air when he did, when he unveiled that segment, and he says that's only a, it's going to be a one time thing, it's going to be one time throwaway, not. It's stuck with me with Jody, with everybody. And, lo and behold, it's now taken a life of its own, where some of the guests that we have Ryan McCarthy, of course, you saw a sick diggy who joins us from Norway, victor Locke, who joins me from my hometown of Chicago Every time we come up with a name, they'll flip it.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

I came up with the.

Speaker 3:

Irvingologist, the Bradyites and the Heart Knights. but that's my spin, Those are my spins off the off the bronze sexuals. So that's how all that got started.

Speaker 2:

It's another one too. Don't forget about the Ben Simmons, the Ben Simmons Amber Alerts.

Speaker 3:

You know, and Simmons you know it's crazy topic on it, so, um, if it was Okay there we go. Maybe we here we go. You know it's crazy. See some things that we create on the show we don't think will stick Wrong. When bronze sexual confessions it is trial and error When bronze sexual confessions became a permanent part of a Wednesday show.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he's really. He's rebooting the technical difficulties. Everyone. He is we. Brian snow is rebooting as we speak. But yeah, quick timeout everyone. If you haven't gone and watched the Brian snow in the morning, make sure you go and do so. These guys are hilarious. Not only do they have really good takes on sports there, they'll keep you laughing the entire time. It's not, it's entertaining and entertaining.

Speaker 3:

I guess You know it's, you know it's wild. Some of the stuff that we come up with are just off the cuff and we think of it during the show.

Speaker 3:

Yeah we think of it, we think of it during the show, that that This right here, ready. Oh, i Recorded live on the air, okay, and I mixed it and I put it in my and I put it in the sound base and it took off to the point where Ryan McCarthy did a video trailer for it and I attached the sound to it. So the folks that we have involved with the show guests are Part of the creative team There's. They're so creative and we're just going. Okay, how can we use this? How can we use this? and I Messed up Cole one morning when I threw his own voice at him because he was Knee deep into something and all of a sudden I said you know what, cole? I have to tell you something. He says what's that? and I fired this, adam, you tripped it and I'm cracking up. So some of this stuff.

Speaker 3:

It's like you said, it's it's trial, it's trial and error, but it's. It's such a joy To do every morning, you know, to hang with the people that that we hang with and to get get some new guests in and some new fans in that that chime in and that that list is growing every day. And now I've added an Afternoon show and the crowd filters from the morning filters from snowman in the morning to the Brian snow show in the afternoons and It's kind of the same thing but it's. It's different in the sense of who my interview, because I wanted to set that show as my variety show and Cole came up. Cole's my executive producer and he came up with the perfect tagline when he said where sports is the base, life and fun are the result. And I said, i said that's it, that's it. So I interviewed folks from all walks of life on my afternoon show and it too is a blast to do.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, yeah, the bright snow show. I only watched a few episodes of that of the past couple days, but Yeah, that's, that's amazing to yell like. You have amazing guests on there too.

Speaker 3:

Well, some of them find me, i find them, but it's a, it's a great mix. It's a great mix, right.

Speaker 2:

Exactly now. How many, how many people do you have working for snowman multimedia?

Speaker 3:

Right now only about, there's only about five or six of us. There's only about five or six of my wife included, but oh, nice.

Speaker 3:

I have guests that throw ideas at me and Some of my friends throw ideas at me because they're starting to Get the show. The real creative brain behind all the production is my wife, jody. Yeah, because she'll help me manage my time, she'll help me manage my projects and she'll throw suggestions at me and I at her, and She's been one of the steadying forces of this. And now to have this be a success at its most successful point And I've been doing this particular show ten years, almost ten years. It'll be ten years in October. But to have it at this most successful point, after the trial and error, the starts and the stops, and To have the people in the group that that we do, yourself included.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing.

Speaker 3:

It's absolutely amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so so you weren't. It wasn't like a COVID thing, like most, like most of us, like me included, because when COVID hit I didn't have anything to do, so I created a podcast right so you've been at it for like, actual like Years and upon years on this. This was just like COVID thing for you.

Speaker 3:

No, this is beyond. This is beyond COVID. This is something I've wanted to do Most of my life, and the show that really got me started in sports talk was Mike and Mike in the morning. Yeah, I'm looking into them and I said you know what? I want to fashion a show like theirs and I wanted to Do something like this, but in a less amount of time, because, especially given how my health has been lately, i can't sit here for four hours at a time.

Speaker 3:

Right which, which is crazy, because I'll try to stay in post-production for That that amount of time. But then I'll get a reminder. You know I have to take a nap, i got, i have to shut down for a while, i have to eat my lunch and and things like that. But I Did have a three-hour show once, but after everything that happened with the blood clots in my lungs and the pancreatic cancer, i decided to stick to two hours. The two hours is the most out is the most I'll do, except if it's play by, play call, and you know how long some of those can go. Right, so that that's it.

Speaker 2:

That that just depends right now there, there was a, there was a app on there, i think it was like a Color box or it was color something and you can go on there and you pretty much did. You could do like Play by play of, like games that you see on TV, so anyone could pretty much be a commentator and you record yourself or to go live and do that. And I found That some of them were pretty good, but others were just like.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to tell me.

Speaker 2:

You know that the town was just so terrible. I was like you do it. Like most of them weren't even talking about the game. They were just talking about, like the favorite players and some of them got into like the Jordan LeBron debates. You know that could go on forever, but it was. It was just hysterical. Yeah, some of them. You know what they, what the game was about you know who won. The score was enough.

Speaker 3:

You know it's. You know what's crazy. They contacted me, mm-hmm, wanting me to be a part of, to be a part of their network and I Asked them two questions. One am I gonna get paid for it to do? you want me to do the radio style of play by play? And when they said no to both questions, i was out. Wow, yeah, i was this. I was disinterested because and I heard, like you said, i Heard some of them try to do.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 3:

I've done for over 25 years? Yeah, not even close. I mean right, even me in my rookie year, 1995, and I knew I didn't know, and I still don't know, everything I need to know about doing play by play. That's why I always listen, that's why I always practice, and When I go on assignment, Jody helps me with my checklist, making sure I, making sure I have everything, and then I have all my notes and If there's an art to it, yes, there is an art. There's an art to Doing play by play.

Speaker 3:

And there are so many people because I'm about to open a play by play Academy, you know, and that that idea just hit me. I Someone put the idea in my head and then Jody repeated it and finally, this summer I said let me start formulating and see what I can do to Make to, to make this happen. Because I've had a couple people come to me and they said how do you? they asked me How do, how do I do this? And I said, okay, you know what. I think it's time I can put the wheels in motion for this.

Speaker 2:

Nice, nice. So how did, how did you create the network? Because I was, i was actually thinking about doing like a whole network myself and having like a Radio, like a playlist of other shows coming on but, I feel like it would be exhausting for one And I don't think I have the time to do something like that. Yeah, but is it like?

Speaker 3:

very good, exhausting. But when people come to you and They said can you air? can you air my show because, um, there have been so many people that sent their shows to different stations across the country and they couldn't, you know, they couldn't get in the airtime. And I looked at, i looked at what I have and I said, you know what, i got plenty of airtime. So I figured out with it, roll the dice and see what happens, and the only thing I have to work on now is scheduling them and Getting them used to the technology that I use for people to dial in, people to dial into my station or log into my station so they can run their show or they can send me their programs And I'll air it at a at a different time, right, but It does get. It does get exhausting. But I've learned this over the years and I will continue to learn it day by day, by day by moment by moment by moment.

Speaker 3:

Failure to prepare is preparing to fail and I failed many hundred thousands of times in my life.

Speaker 3:

But guilty it's, it's, it's Getting into a rhythm, it's getting into a nice rhythm And, like you said earlier, uh, trial and error It's, it's, it's literally trial and error where you can succeed or fail.

Speaker 3:

If you implement something and it doesn't work, yank it out and try and uh and try something else. But When you want it as bad as I do, you're willing to push the plunger, blow it up and try to try again several hundred thousand times, as I have. And when you cannot see yourself doing anything else, when you can see yourself On the grind every day, whether it's an hour at a time or a couple of hours at a time, or if you spend just 20 minutes Feeding into this, what is the next step? That's the question You always have to ask yourself and that's something Jody has hammered into my head for as long as we've been together, because I always talk about it And then she'll finish my thought of okay, what's the next step? How do you do this? So, as long as you have that question to answer and you're willing to Do the research, put the time in and work on answering that question, you'll always have work.

Speaker 2:

Right, exactly, exactly. You have to love it. To be honest with you, you have to absolutely love it. Yeah, i was like I never thought that I would see myself staring at a computer screen, talking to people or even Just interviewing people in person. I never thought that I would be doing that. But lo and behold, here we go, there you go.

Speaker 2:

My dad was yeah, my dad was a karaoke host, so I guess I got comfortable on the microphone doing that, because there'd be times where he got You know, because he would drink for free. But there'd be times where he got to To shit face and do his show and he did his. Hand me the microphone. I was like here, give my show for him. He was like you can't just hand me a microphone, i'm gonna talk the entire time Like you just can't hand me a microphone and be like, uh, let people sing and I'm gonna go. No, they're gonna listen to me the entire time. That's when my dad's like you should be in like some sort of entertainment. He's like and that was just like I, i want to be on the radio, that's all I want to be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah here's.

Speaker 3:

Here's the wild part. You know what got me Really really interested in in sports media? It was actually Um my love for game shows.

Speaker 3:

And the different game, the different game show hosts and their style and how they speak, and Learning the rules, repeating the rules. I once heard that repetition is the mother of skill, and it certainly is, because the more you repeat, the more you repeat something. The more you keep doing something, the better you get at it. Mm-hmm, and I know I'm gonna date myself here, but the first game show I ever watched was the prices. Right, i Got hooked immediately. But then family few got introduced to me, then card sharks got introduced to me And then this is little bitty known cult of a show we like to call pressure. Look, that got introduced to me And I wanted to learn all their styles. I wanted to learn how they, how they did this and How much repetition they put into it, how much practice they put into it, because you have there's, there's a lot of practice that goes into this. There's a lot of repetition that goes into this. The biggest thing I found in my 28 years Taking the first step.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm Got a job you have to jump.

Speaker 3:

You have to jump. You got to, you got to take that first step. I mean, how good? how will you know how good you are if you don't take the chance? And I got to tell you something I've passed up on many, many chances. But then, when I got into this using my own brand and my own details, anchors away, i'm all, i was all in.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, for sure. But yeah, it's, it's, it's amazing, it's like all the things that you Didn't think that was going to happen actually start happening. And then you're just like why? It's like, wow, everything's actually working out. And by actually by working out, i just want to take a second to congratulate you on being monetized on YouTube.

Speaker 3:

Thank you like brand new. Thank you Yeah.

Speaker 3:

The look on the look on Jody's face when I told her because I told her last, i told her last night And I reminded I said out loud, i said now the work really begins. But she looked at me and said but you cleared a major hurdle that you've wanted to clear for two years, mm-hmm. So I celebrate. I celebrated that. And then I Got up today and dug into my desk and whatever I needed to do, i took breaks when I when I needed to. But that is a huge for content creators. When you get that notification that you've been accepted Into the YouTube Partner Program. That's a huge hurdle because now you can iron out all the details and really maximize everything that you need and and Your next steps are basically lined up for you. It's just up to you to really iron out the details.

Speaker 2:

As I said, Right, yeah, that's, that's everyone's goal on here. I'm sorry, but if you're listening to a podcast or watching a show on YouTube, that's everyone's goal is to get monetized.

Speaker 3:

It is, it's sure, was it sure was mine. We don't want to do this for free all the time No I. You know what? I got time when I was at Chicago State. I one day walked into the sport in the in the athletic director's office, and I said you know what I'm tired of doing this for free. And When he looked at me and giggled, I walked out and never came back right.

Speaker 3:

And I said, okay, if you're gonna do that to me, Then I will find some kind of way, no matter how long it takes to build this through my own brand. And the one thing that kept egging me on is Is people saying to me, why don't you go work for a station or why don't you go work for ESPN? and I said, the hell with that. I'm building my own and I'm gonna blow those some bitches away in the process look at ESPN now.

Speaker 2:

Look at ESPN now. What?

Speaker 3:

are they going by the?

Speaker 2:

wayside man. Yeah, stephen a Smith, that's it. That's all you got.

Speaker 3:

Speaking of Stephen, a, one of the more, one of the most popular sounds that I play during during the show Is this one stay off the weed And if you think about it, that's If you think about it. That's that's kind of how we became known.

Speaker 2:

That's true. That is true. Yeah, we don't. We don't comply with that quote. Like for occasions I will put, i will put the weed away for like occasions like this one I won't have. Like if I know that, if I didn't know, like the person I have on Isn't like a big smoker or doesn't like right, advertise it. And then I won't, i won't do it, i'll just leave you plenty You play to your audience. I'll cheap it up, Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'll cheap it up with anybody that comes on the show, though Exactly you play to your audience?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you absolutely play to your audience and you play to your fan base Mm-hmm. And yep most of my fan base knows I Improvise a lot and, as my wife loves saying to me, i'm a nut so I go with it.

Speaker 2:

I Exactly exactly, but yep, but yeah, i do want to kind of dabble into some, and there's some sports with you. Like I said, i haven't you anybody in like a week, so My voice is nice and clear now so But I would.

Speaker 1:

But I do want to get it.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, i do want to get your take on this. This number one draft pick, victor Wimby Nama, that has been has been drafted by San Antonio. I Looked at I watched a summer league game last night nine points, eight rebounds and six assists, and He was two for 13 from the field. Given your opinion, is that number one pick numbers?

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 2:

Cuz this guy is supposed to be like. The next generational talents is LeBron James, and I'm not.

Speaker 3:

I heard that too, and I bristled.

Speaker 2:

Not seeing it.

Speaker 3:

I'm not seeing. Here's what worries me about Wimby Nama. You would think he's a thoroughbred at 73, but if you watched the game last night or watched any of his game overseas, he can't get up and down the floor. And I mean that from the fact that he's winded, because this first basket He was cherry picking, his first ever NBA basket He was cherry picking. Why wasn't he on the defensive end? Why wasn't he letting a hand on the defensive end? Why was it five on four defensively and they couldn't come up with a basket? Great. And then you have him bringing the ball up the floor. No, thank you, i can't. I can't have that.

Speaker 3:

And if I were Greg Popovich and this is nothing against the young man at all, right, if I were Greg Popovich I'd be totally worried. I have him. I'd have him in the weight room part of the day, part of the day, and Sprinting the other part of the day. Because you're in a confined area, you're, you're, you're within 94 feet. And In this situation, with him being seven foot three, you got, especially, you're playing with more athletic players than the players that I've seen grow up Magic Johnson, michael Jordan, larry Bird who didn't, who didn't rely on their athleticism but relied on hard work.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm, you got to put the hard work in, kid. I Don't see it Right and I know Playmaker, i know, i know it's summer league, but if you think about the way they were hyping this kid up right and how they were showing his games or showing clips of his games, this goes back to the brawn in 2001. Mm-hmm, i Don't see his stamina and I don't see his endurance and I see a problem, because what if someone decides to get physical with him down in the post? What?

Speaker 3:

if someone decides to back him down.

Speaker 2:

Like Yolk itch.

Speaker 3:

I think you'll get a good dominate this kid.

Speaker 2:

Listen, dominate this kid.

Speaker 3:

I love Nikola Yolk itch who should have been a three-time MVP. All right, i love Nikola Yolk itch, but Nikola Yolk itch has been putting in the work every year, whether it's his, whether it, whether it's his jump shot, whether if it's his jump hook, whether if it's his post game and the. The one thing I don't. And you're right, the Evaluation will begin in October, but I'm comparing him now to all the hype that he was given from his days with, with the Metropolitan snaggity, and there's the key right there He's 19 years old.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he is 19 years old. He's not even developed. You can't say if you have a bust or a success until he's four years in and What's gonna happen within those four years? Hell, you can honestly say within two years. What's gonna happen within those two years? Is he gonna put the weight on? is he gonna have the stamina? Is he gonna have the endurance? You can't teach seven foot three. You can't just like. You can't eat seven foot two with Nikola Yolk itch. You can teach everything else. You can teach the footwork. You can see, mm-hmm.

Speaker 3:

If Wemby had a jump hook, forget a jump shot. If he had a jump hook, if he developed well, let me change my sentence. If he develops a jump hook, he will be something dangerous. Yes, he's gotta get some girth to him. And I'm not saying put on so much Upper body strength that it affects your stamina. No, i'm saying Put more upper, put more strength on all over. That way you can dominate both sides of the floor. Yes, it's his first NBA game. Yes, there's a lot to look forward to with Wemby, mm-hmm, but right now I just don't see it right.

Speaker 2:

I think What his fourth year? I think it's fourth year.

Speaker 3:

If he's gonna come out, It's gonna be right for right, because That's the year I'm look and that's the year I'm looking for. Here's the problem. Here's the problem I have with with Wemby and I meet, and I'm talking in terms of His physical size. He is seven foot four and only 210 pounds. Yes, problem.

Speaker 3:

Yes that's one reason He's not a thoroughbred. And someone asked me to draw a comparison. Does the name Hashim the beat mean anything to you guys? because he was all of that at Connecticut Mm-hmm, but couldn't get up and down the floor. You know how team when he was, when he was with them, you know how teams beat him. They ran Mm-hmm, they know they ran. And no, i don't want Wemby getting bloated like Zion Williamson, i'm just saying if he's seven foot four, he's got to be at least 260 pounds. Because, yeah, karim Abdul Jabbar was seven two and two sixty three.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm but you couldn't tell, because he was so strong and he was so skilled and his IQ was off the charts.

Speaker 2:

That has a belt to me? Yeah, he's very late.

Speaker 3:

He's very lengthy, you can't eat. Seven foot four, you can't The. The other player that you may draw comparisons with on All aspects would be Ralph Samson. But here are two major differences. One Ralph Samson played four years at Virginia. Mm-hmm and second, as unfortunate is as it is, ralph Samson's Hall of Fame career is besieged by a knee injury. Right, so Some kind of injury is going to besiege, is going to besiege when went by Yama, unless he gets stronger and unless he, unless his endurance increases.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna bowl.

Speaker 3:

That would be the same thing with Manu bowl as he was barely two thirty five at seven, seven. But the thing with bowl he developed a jump shot is crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yep it just. And people that are that big, the ball just looks funny in their hands too, because you see, when you see him shoot, his Hand is all the way around the ball. You know, it's just. How can it, how can it be so accurate like that? That's my only thing with big men shooting is I can't trust them because their chains are just too big their hands.

Speaker 3:

Their hands are too big and The balls too slippery in their hands because they're too big. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, i'm just saying yeah, he needs to put out some weight, though That's for sure. I honestly think that scoot Henderson was the best person in this draft. Wait on him to like the best pick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh.

Speaker 3:

See, here's the problem I have with the younger, with the crop of players that keep coming into the NBA, and they get younger and younger and younger and younger. They're not ready. In many ways they're not ready And you can't tell if they are going to be who you thought they were until three or four years in. Like you said, you have to wait until their fourth year And by that time they should be completing their senior year of college. They should be completing that. But the NBA has flipped so much onto athleticism and not skill and not basketball IQ because of the players getting younger and younger and younger coming into the league, that IQ is no longer highlighted. Athleticism is big problem.

Speaker 2:

Yep, no, no one teaches fundamentals anymore. That's what I don't like, is that you say that again, please.

Speaker 3:

Because I've said so many times on my program.

Speaker 2:

I've said it so many times Right, you remember the USA basketball team, how they like, dominated for so long. And then there was that. there was that skid, and then what was beating them was fundamental basketball passing, running plays, doing cuts, setting picks fundamental basketball. It wasn't showtime all the time.

Speaker 3:

The late great Jim Durham, who was the voice of the Bulls for many years and voice of ESPN radio for many years, said it during a Bulls game where they were playing the Detroit Pistons. What is basketball's most basic play? Pick and roll.

Speaker 2:

Yep, pick and roll. Yeah, that will never go away from basketball. That will always be an intricate part of basketball.

Speaker 3:

Always. And look at how Denver runs the pick and roll and look at how Golden State runs the pick and roll. 50% of the time in a result, in a three point attempt, 50% of the time they'll slice you to pieces on the inside. The last two, i'll mention again the last two champions the Denver Nuggets and the Golden State Warriors. It wasn't always a three point shot. They slice you to pieces in the back door.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's true, it's the back door cuts, the constant back door cuts.

Speaker 3:

I mean, you've heard Coles say on the show that Golden State's offense and now Denver's offense is the Princeton offense. On steroids, they'll find the best shot, and the best shot is two feet away from the basket. How do you think Denver dominated on the inside against the Lakers and later on against Miami in the World Championship Series? They cut you, they chopped you to pieces on the inside.

Speaker 2:

So my old basketball coach, my old varsity basketball coach, used to tell me yes, shooting threes is nice, it's always nice to shoot a three and make it every once in a while, but why not go to the hole and either get an easy bucket or get fouled?

Speaker 3:

That's what's going to happen?

Speaker 2:

You're going to get an easy bucket or you're going to get fouled or you're going to get both and you're good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Or you get both, or you get the foul and the bucket.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, or you get fouled. How do you think? How do you think Steph Curry led the league in scoring two years ago? He sliced you to pieces on the inside. Yeah, it just happens that he's not many people realize how many times he was found in the back door or found his teammates going back door Basic basketball pick and roll.

Speaker 2:

Basic basketball. He's speaking of basic. Here we go. You meant to forget about the word basic. How true is that.

Speaker 3:

How true is that that it's been used as a very derogatory term? Not for me, not for me. How many times have we seen Magic Johnson fire a ball into James Worthy or Abdul Jabbar or AC Green for a quick bucket? Right See, point guards today need to look up the floor. Look up the floor. Don't look to shoot, unless you're Steph Curry, which you can do that all the time, but, oh yeah, shoot all day. It's a rarity, but Steph is a hybrid, but he's more of a point guard, which is what a lot of people don't believe. Oh, he just shoots, he just shoots. Look at his IQ for the game. Look at how his IQ has developed over 14 years. Look at how his IQ has developed at Davidson. You can't teach that.

Speaker 2:

Part of it's probably being a son of us.

Speaker 3:

Oh, Del Curry, who I had the pleasure of meeting a few years ago. Well, shucks, that's passed down to you, because when Del was with the Cavs and later the Hornets, and I grew up a Bulls fan, he used to kill us coming off the bench. Yes, he was dangerous. I mean, del Curry coming the game and you're looking going. Oh no, what are they going to do for you? What do you think happens? Run a screen off, a Brad Daugherty and Del's popping one from 20 feet? That's too easy.

Speaker 2:

That dude was lights out too. Yeah, he was Just a great shooter. You forget You forget Like I don't want to say old people, but old people like me we forget how good they were in the 90s, the late 80s and the early 90s and mid 90s were You know who used to really get on my nerves.

Speaker 3:

We're talking about shooters and talking about old school basketball and people who came off the bench. You know who used to really get on my nerves? Vinnie Frickin Johnson from the. Detroit Pistons the microwave, Because every time They go for a second listen every time the bulls got closer to the Pistons and score. I'm just waiting to see number 15 do something. And then all of a sudden, you hear the PA. and now to go pretty Johnson and I'm walking around the house going damn it, he did it again.

Speaker 2:

Bad boy, bad boy pistons. That's when the pistons were phenomenal, so good.

Speaker 3:

That's when they were developed. Chuck Daly the late, great Chuck Daly developed that team and they had another fellow on there who I couldn't stand but I love and respect dearly. His name is Joe Dumars.

Speaker 2:

Joey D Yeah, because every time you saw the ball.

Speaker 3:

Every time you saw the ball of Joe Dumars, his hands inside the going up, or he's going right to the basket and you're like Oh dear God. And as soon as he let one go, you look at your score, but I put it down and walk back.

Speaker 2:

Go away, go away. He's not that good at being a GM, though. I'm going to say that right now, because when he was running the Pistons roster. It was kind of pretty bad.

Speaker 3:

He had one. He had one good year, oh, 2004.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, When they won the title. Yeah when they beat my Lakers.

Speaker 3:

But Joe Dumars used to kill us. Joe Dumars used to, and he did it to the lake. He did it to your Lakers. Joe Dumars used to kill us to the point where Dumars was elected the finals MVP in 1989 when they clenched Because when I now never forget, the next day went to school. We're all sitting around talking about it and all of a sudden, one of my friends just stands up and says I can't stand Joe Dumars. And every thought in my head was I know why he used to kill us Because he used to daggers.

Speaker 1:

He used to kill us.

Speaker 2:

Joey D he was sassin'.

Speaker 3:

And then you had Isaiah Thomas run in the show.

Speaker 2:

Wasn't a big fan of Isaiah, was not a big fan of Isaiah.

Speaker 3:

I was, but then I wasn't. But hey look, isaiah Thomas is Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 2:

Don't get me wrong he's a Hall of Famer and he deserves it, but not a big fan of this.

Speaker 3:

I was less of a bigger fan of Joe Dumars and even less of a fan of Bill Lambert because of his skills Damn it.

Speaker 2:

There you go, because Don't forget about-.

Speaker 3:

Listen, bill Lambert was one of the very first stretch fours or stretch fives that I saw. He'll beat you up in the post-all game long, but I'll never forget this one play, when they were playing the Bulls in the East Finals in 89. It was game four. The Bulls had just come back to tie the game. Chicago State, chicago Stadium, was a nut house because we had wiped out a 13 point deficit to tie the game. And why did they leave Bill Lambert open? five feet behind the three point line? Somebody didn't rotate And as soon as he got the ball my whole family looked and said, oh shit, because we knew what was going in.

Speaker 2:

I think that was like miscommunication. Somebody missed it in the sign Big time.

Speaker 3:

Someone got picked off. Someone got picked off And one of the wrong people to leave open was Bill Lambert.

Speaker 2:

Bill Lambert. Yeah, i got the pleasure of meeting Bill Lambert. He came in when I was working at Applebee's on State Street in Saginaw way back when the long time ago. But he came in and got it to go order And I was out just talking to the bartender and he comes in and I'm like that's fucking Bill Lambert. I am not going back to work right now. I'm not doing it. I'm gonna stay right out here until this dude leaves. I am not leaving.

Speaker 2:

I shook his hand and got a picture with him And I was like, man, i wish I had something for you to sign. He's like I can sign your work shirt. And I was like, no, don't sign that work shirt. I was like, no, i'll just leave it at a handshake.

Speaker 3:

Here's what people don't understand about Bill Lambert, because I had the pleasure of meeting him when he was a WNBA coach for the Detroit Shock. I mean, when it came time to play he laced him up and played. And he didn't play dirty, he was a big man. He was told to beat people up in the post. That's what he was trained to do. That's what he was told to do Outside of the floor. One of the nicest men you'll ever meet. One of the nicest men you'll ever meet. And I had a chance to do a press conference with him And I shook his hand And I'm like I wanted to curse him for all the times he would beat up my bowls. But then every piece of sense in me said that's what he was trained to do. That's what Chuck Daly told him to do.

Speaker 3:

The pistons had the advantage. They had James Edwards. They had Bill Lambert. They had Dennis Rodman, who started and came off the bench and then started again after Mark Aguilar was brought in. They had the advantage Rick Mahorn. They had the advantage John Sally It's nice Spider Sally too. They had the advantage Size And they used it. They were supposed to exploit that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they did that.

Speaker 3:

They were supposed to exploit that.

Speaker 2:

And what else are you going to do when you have Michael Jordan jumping over you all the damn time?

Speaker 1:

I'm like you have to hit him.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, i'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to take you, you're right.

Speaker 2:

If you're going to try and dunk over me every single possession, I'm going to hit you.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to hit you hard.

Speaker 2:

You're like you're not going to do it every time.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. But you know what scared the pistons and pistons fans when the Bulls figured it out in 91,. when they figured it out and they ran as an offense and not just Michael Jordan against everybody when they figured it out, even the most ardent piston fans came up to me after game two and said you know what I think the Bulls have got this series. And I'm being cautious And I said we just held serve at home. And he looked me in the eye and he said we will not get past Memorial Day if we allow this Bulls team to sink in defensively. And that was the key. That was the key point. If you let that Bulls team sink in defensively, forget it.

Speaker 2:

Right, Yep, That was. I believe that was the year that I lost all respect for Isaiah Thomas too.

Speaker 1:

That's why I didn't want to say.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, well, it's not. It's just not that he walked out the floor, because the whole team did it. But when he walked out the floor, he crunched Like he ducked.

Speaker 3:

So people, wouldn't see him. He didn't even shake anybody's hand, right.

Speaker 2:

Right And he just ducked it. while everyone else got booed and stuff throwing at him, He just ducked out. And that's when I don't know, that's when I lost all respect for Isaiah Thomas And plus he cries about not being on the team.

Speaker 3:

Here's an NBA question for you, and this is a fan question as well. Can we please, please, bring back the Seattle SuperSonics.

Speaker 2:

Please. I believe they're next on the list.

Speaker 1:

They should have never left.

Speaker 2:

No, they shouldn't have. No, for real, they shouldn't have.

Speaker 3:

But they should have never left Seattle. I mean, I hate you, Clay Bennett, for taking away the Seattle SuperSonics.

Speaker 2:

One of the most legendary teams to ever play in the. NBA Yes, legendary team.

Speaker 3:

I mean you can't mention an old Western conference series without mentioning the Seattle SuperSonics. You just can't. And basketballs, professional basketballs, not right in OKC, it's not, no, it's not. I get yelled at all the time. I get yelled at all the time, people saying to me, well, they built a following, yeah, off the backs of the SuperSonics, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, those banners in the rafters. they're not OKCs, They belong to Seattle.

Speaker 3:

That 1979 championship that was in Seattle, that was in the kingdom, that was in Seattle. Santa Coliseum That belongs to the Sonics, yeah, and then people ask me how do we make it right? You know what you do. You take the Sonics history and you wipe it out at OKC. You bring it back home to Seattle, build the team there and let OKC keep the history that they have there. Period.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

That's how you saw that They're long enough.

Speaker 2:

They have a history.

Speaker 3:

now They have indeed, they have a history now. They have a finals appearance. They got a Western Conference fight. They have a Western Conference championship, a Western Conference finals appearance. They have their history now, but the rest of the 41-year history before that that's not theirs.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, i completely agree. I was stunned when I heard that the Seattle SuperSonics were moving to OKC. I was like what? Why? Like, out of all teams, the Seattle SuperSonics, like you, couldn't take another California team and move them to OKC?

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Sacramento or somebody.

Speaker 3:

Well, now Sacramento's back on the map with the year that they just had Finally. And the Golden One Center is about to be off the charts for the next few years, with the team that put together.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a fluke. I think the Kings are a fluke. I think it was a fluke year. We will see. I do like Keegan Murray and De'Aaron Fox. Don't get me wrong, i do like those two.

Speaker 3:

I love De'Aaron Fox.

Speaker 2:

I don't think so, but this is.

Speaker 3:

I love De'Aaron Fox. De'Aaron Fox should have been the Lakers pick instead of Lonzo Ball. De'Aaron Fox was ready.

Speaker 2:

Thank you Yeah.

Speaker 3:

De'Aaron Fox was the pick that the Lakers should have snagged instead of Lonzo Ball, and the Lakers have not recovered since not picking De'Aaron Fox because the Kings are building around De'Aaron Fox and that should have been the Lakers building around De'Aaron Fox Period.

Speaker 2:

It wouldn't have happened, though, because you know who would have traded them.

Speaker 3:

You ain't going to tell me twice. Am I 2000? By the end of 2019, de'aaron Fox probably would have been sent packing this Sacramento anyway, dog gone.

Speaker 2:

I get a lot of ish on Facebook about my beef with LeBron. I get a lot of it.

Speaker 3:

Like, how are you Lakers paying you for LeBron? You should see some of this shit that I get.

Speaker 2:

I get it. I get it, use it.

Speaker 3:

You should see some of the comments I get, because every time I have a critical point about LeBron's game or LeBron's achievement and how we got there, i'm called a hater And I'm going. I am not hating. Don't you understand that I'm not hating. I just know what I was blessed to watch for the better part of 25 years, and this ain't it.

Speaker 3:

No, that's as simple as it gets. I've seen what's the problem with NBA fan when it comes to LeBron or some of these other players. What is the problem with true NBA fans like you and I saying three words aloud? I've seen better.

Speaker 2:

What's wrong with that? And we have to because the league wasn't this soft. It was not this soft when we were watching girl football. Oh hell no.

Speaker 3:

This league was nowhere near When I got into it in 1980, this league was it for me, especially when Magic Johnson became the only rookie to date to win the finals MVP award, because he told Paul Westhead, who was the Lakers coach at the time, never fear Magic's here. And that 20-year-old went into the spectrum in Philadelphia and dropped 42 points, snatched 15 rebounds and dished out seven assists in a game that Philadelphia had to have, but the Lakers wanted more. You knew it was the Lakers night when they opened with the first seven points of the game in Philadelphia. Remember, this is after the Lakers snatched a 3-2 lead and lost their captain. They lost their captain to an injury.

Speaker 2:

Yep, that's when cream went down.

Speaker 3:

And on the plane to Philadelphia, this 20-year-old rookie was bold enough to start at center against Caldwell-Jones and did what he did, in fact, jim Jones. I remember Jim Jones trying to push Magic out of the center circle and Magic was like no, i got this. And then that happened.

Speaker 2:

Right Magic Johnson was a completely different animal.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2:

It's like wow, he never saw. He developed the game. Like if you speak on generational talents, you got to speak. Magic Johnson.

Speaker 3:

Magic Johnson, absolutely. I mean because he won the NCAA championship the year before, got drafted by the Lakers and then helped carry them to a championship. Matter of fact, helped clinch the championship in Philadelphia. Back to back years, that began the process of Bird and Magic saving the NBA. And then in 1984, michael Jordan showed up and took it to another level.

Speaker 2:

Bird was a bad dude, though, too.

Speaker 3:

Man Larry Bird was. I hated him but loved him.

Speaker 2:

The only dude that'll tell you what he's going to do. do it And then, dare you, to stop him.

Speaker 3:

And then dare you to stop him.

Speaker 2:

There you go, call a white boy right there. That's a call a white boy.

Speaker 3:

Listen, when Larry got in that shooting position, you just look up and go oh hell, here it comes And it drops. There is nothing you can do about that.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 3:

Nothing No.

Speaker 2:

No, it's amazing. As soon as you saw his eyes go up, you knew what was going in. You didn't have to shoot the ball yet. As soon as his eyes went up, you knew what was going in.

Speaker 3:

I think Larry Bird was the first player I ever saw to launch a shot and then run the other way because he knew it was going in the basket. I think Larry was the first player I ever saw do that. But at the time we were growing up watching the NBA. Every player had a signature with Magic Johnson. It was his passing with Larry Bird, it was his jump shot with the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. You know what it was. The Skyhook.

Speaker 3:

With MJ, it was the tongue coming out, leaping over everybody. But here's what people do not want to acknowledge about Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan had a jump shot in development when he came into the league in 1984. It just got more accurate throughout the years.

Speaker 2:

He wasn't the greatest three-point shooter, but yeah, it was good for him.

Speaker 3:

But, at the same time, he didn't need to be the greatest three-point shooter. He knew what his skills were and maxed them out. Right, he knew what his skills were and he maxed them out. The year that LeBron scored 3,000 in a season, i want to say it was 2017. The year that LeBron scored 3,000 in a season, he took a lot of three-point field goal. He made, he attempted a lot of three-point field goal shots. You know how many three-point field attempts Michael Jordan attempted when he scored 3,000 points in the season?

Speaker 3:

12 total 12 1987, mj scored 3,000 points in a year, became the second person to do that aside of will chamberlain, and And he only took 12 three-point shots the entire in 82 games amazing And if you can't well, shots, that's not.

Speaker 2:

That's like one shot every three to five games. Yeah, if that Right.

Speaker 3:

There were so many where he didn't take a three-point shot. But again, like you and I both said, he didn't need to. Right, exactly, he didn't need to when he first came in and this and this was this is proven fact He always attacked the rim. It's it was rare from 84 to 80. I say 84 to 88. It was rare to see him Attempted jump shot. Now, by about the midpoint of 88, he started figuring out okay, i need to develop this so he would take more jump shots, but they would be within the arc. They weren't. They weren't outside, they weren't three-point shots. And The and a side of James worthy, the meanest mid-range game I ever saw was from MJ Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

Oh it's mid-range game I ever saw was from MJ like that fade away.

Speaker 2:

Oh geez, that was unguardable.

Speaker 3:

The two most indefensible shots. Your team had one, my team had one the skyhook and the fade away The two most indefensible shots in NBA history. The next one that could come close to that was the fade from Patrick Ewing that he would hit an impossible angles.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Like I would watch Patrick Ewing play and I would be like how is this going in, right, so angry? How is it going in? knock it off?

Speaker 3:

You look at some of the shots that Patrick Ewing would take and You know his pet move always came on the left block, always came on the on the left block And it would always come on the come on the baseline and he would spin away And you knew it was letting it go, but he had that reach and he had that follow through. There's a fundamental term He had that follow through and you're wondering there's no way that's gonna get through there And it just hits nothing but net and you're going how He's going, how That's all you can do, like how is this going in? how There was a shot that Ewing hit against the Bulls To seal the game because the Knicks led the Bulls by 13 at one point. I want to say this was 96, 97 year and MJ hit a bucket to cut it to two and they get it to Ewing in the post. He backed up twice, turn to his left and Let it go and I'm going there's no way off the backboard in the far corner and fell in. What the fuck was that?

Speaker 2:

right, i don't know.

Speaker 3:

Like what the fuck was that? and and they show where he actually Hit the hit the corner and it was the top part of the corner on the backboard.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

What the hell was that?

Speaker 2:

That's that's. That's a lot, that's a lot of English, that's what that is, or something I don't know. That's some ignorant.

Speaker 3:

English and I saw Steph Curry hit the same kind of shot over Dirk Novitsky one year. Novitsky has Curry trapped in the corner And I think, okay, novitsky's gonna block this or Curry's gonna pass it. Nope, nope, steph just leans into one deep in the corner. Let's it fly. I don't like Off the glass and through the bucket at the top part of the corner before it went out.

Speaker 2:

Right, exactly, staying very insane. Well, yeah, we are actually running out of time. I hate to end. Man I really have, but I kind of have to, i'm sorry. I do want to save some sports, though, because I am actually gonna be on your show here quite soon.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we actually got to save some sports talk for that show too.

Speaker 3:

We do, we do, but, man, thank you for having me on. It was a thrill, it was a pleasure and it was, more importantly, it was an honor to hang with you tonight.

Speaker 2:

It's it's. It's great to watch you guys. I enjoy your guys the show I would love to have you back on. Maybe we'll get you on. Bet that Like. We'll do that too, like you got it You got it. It's amazing. It's me. Yeah, I would like to see you and Jerry and go at it too. It's that be awesome. He don't want it.

Speaker 3:

He don't want this. No, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm, i'm. I'm totally kidding as I say that, but you know that would be. You know, you know that would be must see Him and I going back and forth, and you know what the crazy part is. I'm willing to bet you that within a minute, both of us would be sitting there laughing our asses off the whole time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's, that's why we do this anyways.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah sports.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we love Talk about it and we have our opinions, but all in all, it's it's. It's all about having fun and it is chilling with your friends.

Speaker 3:

It is all about fun. It is man It was. It was such an honor. It was such an honor tonight.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, yeah, i would love to have you back on and but yeah, before you go, go ahead and tell these people where they can find you, where they can follow you and stuff you can follow me at snowman multimedia on YouTube and all other platforms, or you can follow me at B snow multimedia on my personal platforms. Awesome, awesome again. Thank you, sir. Thank you for stopping by.

Speaker 3:

I appreciate you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

Awesome, awesome, brian snow, everyone from snowman in the morning, snowman multimedia. Go ahead, check those guys out YouTube, facebook, instagram, twitter, all that good stuff. Links are in the description below, and Be sure to check us out next week. Yes, we are back at our regular timing. Next week, saturday, july 15th, we have Roxanne Luciano coming on and This is gonna be a great time. She's, we're gonna drop some. We're gonna drop some songs and we're gonna talk about what she's got Going on in her, in her career, and That's it. Everyone. I love you guys. Stay up, hey.

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